We read today in a press release that President Obama said “We may be seeing the beginning of the end of the recession.” Our own analysis of the leading economic indicators has led us to the same conclusion; things are getting less bad, and we may enjoy a mild recovery in the months ahead. But this does not at ALL suggest that we are going to return to a period of robust growth. As we’ve said before, “less bad” does not mean “good.”
After a true bubble like the one we witnessed in Florida real estate, it can take years or even decades to work off the excesses. Earlier today, a friend sent me a story about a high-end, 34-story condo tower in Fort Myers, Florida. The building has exactly one resident — yes, one!
So, the rest of the building remains vacant, a monument to the most absurd American real estate bubble in history. Will it ever be leased or owner occupied? Maybe. Maybe not. Dallas, Texas — our hometown — was one of the centers of the late 1980s condo binge associated with the S&L debacle. The I-30 corridor was littered with condo developments that FAR exceeded local demand. Many properties remained vacant eyesores for years before finally being demolished — having NEVER been occupied. The areas most affected are still blighted, 20 years later. That part of the city is hideously ugly, and probably always will be.
When development finally returned to the DFW metroplex, builders largely ignored the area and chose instead to go a different direction. Quite frankly, that part of the city may never recover. Perhaps some of the federal stimulus money could be used to build a monument there — “Speculative Bust National Park.”
At any rate, the recession may or may not be ending. But we are definitely NOT returning to the way things were, at least not any time soon.
Charles Sizemore, CFA
Co-author of the recently-published Boom or Bust: Understanding and Profiting from a Changing Consumer Economy
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It was in May that Mr. Dent suggest we sell all our stocks and homes and get ready for a major downturn, now it seem you agree with Presidnet Obama in that the crisis is over. I’m getting very confused on what Mr Dents forcasr is.
What happened to the Great Depression Ahead? I too am a little confused by this latest post by Mr. Sizemore.
Hey guys, like we said, “less bad” does not mean good. We may (or may not) be leaving the technical definition of a recession, but this does not mean that we are “off to the races” again. Japan is the example we use most regularly, and for good reason. Japan moved in and out of technical recession for more than 15 years. There were short periods of growth followed by disappointing returns to recession and slow (or negative) growth. That’s where we are now. We might have a mild recovery in the months ahead…but in the end, we believe it will disappoint. Stagnant conditions should persist for years into the future.
Hi Charles
I’ve just finished reading The Great Depression Ahead and have spent a few days on the site here poking through all of the commentary and extra info you have provided. Thank you for all of your work.
Being from Vancouver, British Columbia I have seen both the shiny and ugly side of the real estate market. I have a ton of equity in my house but am in no position to sell and move…I wish I could. I’m sitting on my stock portfolio until September, when I will move everything to cash. Is there anything else you’d recommend someone like myself do in preparation for the nose dive ahead?
Thanks again - Daniel Poole
Daniel, thanks for your nice comments. Unfortunately, the best we can recommend now is that you “keep your powder dry” so to speak by staying as liquid as possible, keeping your expenses down, and building your savings. If you can do this, you will already be ahead of most other Americans and Canadians!
Does this mean that in the next 12 months to 2 years we will not see the stock markets retest march 09 lows?
Do you still believe there will be a major stockmarket correction downwards in late 2009 as indicated in the book the great depression ahead?
An article in the 8/2/2009 San Francisco Chronicle indicated that a suburb in the East SF bay area had about 15 foreclosed homes for sale, while the banks were still sitting on over 500 foreclosures for that suburb! So, are the banks really recovering? What strategy do you think they can implement to avoid wiping out their bottom line with this backlog of inventory?